He claims that a baby does not become a living soul until it takes its first breath of air. Yes, youve come a long way, Baby, but Im afraid its in the wrong direction. I was TheSocialCentre.wordpress.com, but now am SocialDynamos.wordpress.com! Life begins before the first breath. For example, Psalm 139:1316, Jeremiah 1:5>, Job 31:15, and Psalm 22:1011 all imply the unborn is a valuable human being. Elihu said that if God "withdrew his spirit and breath, all mankind would perish." In case you missed my speech about the passages in Luke, I will, like Benjamin Franklin, quote myself with great gravity.. The reason abortion needs to be legal is not because "life begins at birth.". Havent you heard about the recent discoveries that preborn babies can help heal their moms hearts? Do all animals and plants have souls? Genesis 3:19,23 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. Not sure why you seem to have pounced on the word literal. I just used the term to describe the NASB, the translation I cited. . Moreover, how about you try Hooked on Phonics? Let me illustrate with a real-life case that I managed while at the Albany Medical Center. 2.2 From developmental features. Passage: "Then the Lord God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being" (Genesis 2:7 RSV). First, youre ignoring the context of the verse. Debra, youre not just being disrespectful; youre being quite unscientific in referring to preborn children as parasites. There are several forms of symbiosis and parasitism is one of them, but a human mother carrying a child is not a parasitic relationship. Finally, Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. Autism He sleeps, he wakes up. Also comparing physical stimulation, pain or anything else like the most obvious alternative, blood, are all premised on the life breath, in the individuals wind pipe & then blood! The process was first observed over 150 years ago. Psalm 139:16 Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be. The Bible is clear that a human person is already alive while in the womb. History It ends when you stop. November 2017 Respiring is kin to spirit, which is kin to life breath & vital wind, in old Anglo-Saxon Germanic! The Christian Left is a spectrum. You are quite ignorant of clear biblical text indicating that unborn children are quite alive. . Therefore, the Bible teaches that abortion is wrong. The passages you mentioned have to do with judgment and one of Gods attributes: wrath. That libertarian laissez faire,classical liberal social progress, is the opposite of Progressive libertine socialisms, war on social progress! Again, you are elevating yourself above God to try and prevent sin. absolutely ghastly. Vision I also love the numerous mentions of how God and Science are compatible. Socialism Pneumatology was the social spirited, social animating, social motivating powerhouse of individual human capital! On the cross, "God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life" (Jn. But according to the Christian Left and the Democratic party platform, this person is not alive. Birth (or first breathing air) is more like a milestone on the journey of our lives, like puberty or menopause, not a line of demarcation between being and nonbeing, humans and nonhumans, humans and subhumans, the living and the dead, or between humans with rights and those without them. He sucks his thumb. August 2012 It clearly doesn't. Every word of God proves true; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. Thats because its an asynchronous patchwork, cobbled-together by human hands looking to get a stranglehold on the gullible masses. Acts 17:25. Four centuries before Christ, even the pagan, polytheistic Greeks were civilized enough to recognize the bright-line distinction between healing and killing, which is why those who the traditional Hippocratic Oath forswore the use of abortifacients. Notice almost all of them say IS, not will be or will bear, and certainly there is no sense in any of them of looking forward to some future time when the child WILL BE or WILL BECOME alive. But be wary a lot of freaks on right deny this, thus makes the women sub human, them cells being more valuable than your life! Durch Klicken auf Alle akzeptieren erklren Sie sich damit einverstanden, dass Yahoo und unsere Partner Ihre personenbezogenen Daten verarbeiten und Technologien wie Cookies nutzen, um personalisierte Anzeigen und Inhalte zu zeigen, zur Messung von Anzeigen und Inhalten, um mehr ber die Zielgruppe zu erfahren sowie fr die Entwicklung von Produkten. Republicans arent necessarily opposed to contraception, unless it involves abortifacients. Guest bloggers featured often. You might say that is kind of harsh. A. Ird But here, as I have laid out, there is a consistent theme that breath is life. That would make abortion akin to burning your own capital, future economic progress! This response is supposed to leave the forced-birth extremist speechless. Women need to start looking at the fruit of Republican Party, what they do says they HATE women. THE HOLY BIBLE, NEW INTERNATIONAL Then again, according to Genesis 9:4, the blood is the source of life (c.f. But in addition to verses on when Life Begins, how about when it ends. She could very well be minutes or hours away from a major stroke. Here are a few more passages that illustrate when life begins. Socialism sees all as one social anthill or beehive, animated by one continuum! Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, The Interfaith Dilemma Its about someone accidentally causing a woman to miscarry. Its quite obvious why some want to define preborns out of the human race! http://www.babycenter.com/0_how-being-a-mom-can-make-you-healthier_1438536.bc. I believe, in the words of the founder of my particular sect of Christianity, John Wesley, that scripture is "Sufficient. But its lesson is for all times. Genesis 2:7 has nothing to do with the way the rest of mankind have been created. April 2021 The Handmaids Tale 2012 Ive wondered if she could ever have lived that long without having had children! Before reading any further, I want to encourage you to take out a pen and a piece of paper and think of your own response to this challenge. Debra, I notice those who allude to Exodus 21 and Numbers 5 as if either had anything to do with abortion-on-demand rarely quote either. The Holy Spirit in the Old Testament is described by the world ruah which means breath. I find the idea that a woman could have been made to drink poison because her husband was jealous absolutely repulsive. First David was inspired t. Breathing is life, and the baby does in fact breathe. We are latter told God spoke to Jeremiah in the Womb, how far along he was isnt said. Biological life is created from existing material, whereas soul life is created after a pattern (God's) at birth. Accidental or intentional. Religion First, the pro-life argument isnt that abortion is wrong because my religion says so. We can make a biblical argument. It's laid out just as clear as anything could be. Jeremiah is talking about someone who was predestined to be a prophet. Job 27:3 All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils; Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life. Mother In the language of Scripture, theyre just babies, wherever they reside. Bible on biblical teachings about the immutability and knowability of God and the understanding that the laws of nature, being part of his creation, were unchanging, dependable, and discoverable. You dont get to redefine things just because its inconvenient. Hell They talk about being FORMED, being set apart, and being known All those things can very well be true for God to have done, without the fetus ever being alive. Hosea 9:14 Shame on you. Comment Of The Day Jesus Christ Using the Bible as a reason to tell people what to do is taking away peoples freedom of religion. As well as if a promontory were. Because maybe thats the point that is being missed here. If a person has a heartbeat and brainwaves, shes considered to be alive, even if she needs help with her breathing. So because abortion is not murdering an individual breathing soul, does not mean abortion is not killing or blocking social progress! All were blessings to everyone who knew them (one served in World War II), had their own or adopted children, and lived to ripe, old ages. Key scripture: Genesis 1:1-28; Genesis 2:7; Genesis 2:18-22; John 9 Key points: o God created humanity in a way that sets us apart from the rest of creation o Human beings were holistic from the beginning o Humanity was created to be in relationship with God and others Lesson August 2014 Of course abortion kills a physical baby body! And NONE of the nonsense biblical passages referenced here have ANYTHING to do with the question of the life status of fetuses. In all those hundreds of cases, the number of unborn children that I had to deliberately kill was zero.. May 2014 June 2022 A spider can grab your finger, feel pain, AND independently sustain its own life, yet youll squash them without a thought. Many dont seem to realize is that in both testaments, Scripture always uses PERSONAL pronouns to refer to children in utero (he, she, they, etc., but never it). NONE of the passages YOU have cited have ANYTHING to do with abortion either. Besides, breath is NOT the only substance used to represent life in Scripture! Second, the Bible does not say life begins at first breath. Whoever created this meme needs to read their Bible again. I have found it very interesting. Apostle Paul confirms this in 2 Thess 1:9-10. And manufacturing problems, like how you couldnt ever pray in school? July 2015 Consider Genesis 9:4; Deuteronomy 12:23: Leviticus 17:11, 14; and even John 6:53, 54, all of which indicate that life is in the BLOOD. Consider too how often the Bible talks about shedding innocent blood.. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.. Even here, you admit Jewish rabbis would sanction an abortion only to save the life of the mother and there are already legal provisions for such extreme and unusual cases. Christians dont have the luxury of living aloof from the world or of ignoring the suffering of others. April 2020 Although nothing in Scripture contradicts true science, Hebrew isnt a scientific language. It can be said with absolute certainty that ancient scripture does not consider a zygote or a fetus even to be alive, because it has not yet drawn breath. 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