Ive been impressed by the film-makers determination to stick to the facts Gavin Hood, the director, interviewed me at length over five days and I was consulted throughout the process. Ed, I know some people have said that Rhys Ifans [who plays Vulliamy] is slightly over the top. And those two are great actresses. It was only later in the green room that I asked what all the fuss had been about, wondering aloud if it had been the environmental protest group Extinction Rebellion. In fact, I had no idea what was going on. EXCLUSIVE: Lanzarote sticks to its guns and insists it WILL limit tourists and move away from relying on Jeremy Clarkson is axed as Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? [Gun was charged with violating the Official Secrets Act in Britain, but ultimately the case never went to trial.]. So, to find that it would be dramatised on the big screen was as wonderfully welcome as it was astonishing. I was suddenly free and bewildered. What did you think was going to happen? And I didnt have work where I was. Theres not a lot of work for translators; shes a Mandarin translator in England. As opposed to trying to be Katharine Gun. So we start with hair, and then we start with glasses, and Keira says, "Gavin, what if I just was me?" "I never aligned myself specifically with the anti-war movement. WebIts the tale of whistleblower Katharine Gun, a former translator for the UKs Government Communications HQ, who leaked a top-secret memo in 2003 on the eve of a divisive US-led war. I answered an advert in The Guardian newspaper for a translator. But the Bush administration went to war anyway, using the pretext of weapons of mass destruction. By printing off the memo, putting it in her handbag and taking it home, she was already committing a serious breach of the Official Secrets Act. Or, in this case, when the Office of Special Plans was set up, youve got Feith and someone like Abram Shulsky, whose philosophy of intelligence is very different. David Dayen: As someone who works on a magazine, it's the ultimate copyediting failure. Gun said that the UK government still had some explaining to do: "I thinkthere need to be more questions asked about whether they responded to that request, why they felt it was within their scope of work to respond to that sort of request, and what is the manner of the relationship between UK politics and US politics. WebKeira Knightley stars in this true story about Katharine Gun, a British intelligence officer who exposed the US government's efforts to force the UN Security Council to sanction the Was the British government aware of it? Then, the following Monday, I printed out a copy of the email, folded it up, and tucked it carefully in my bag. You may not know the name Katharine Gun unless you live in the United Kingdom, but she was a pivotal figure in the run-up to the Iraq War. The email was demonstrating the depths to which the American and British governments would descend in order to get spurious legal cover for a war in the Middle East which would have utterly catastrophic consequences, as we know to our cost today. My job had been to listen to Chinese communications, translate them from Mandarin to English and produce reports for different government departments. Every product was carefully curated by an Esquire editor. Ms Gun worked as a translator at the GCHQ building in Cheltenham, pictured. British Secret Service Officer Katharine, then a young bride, risked everything to leak details of the Bush-Blair plan to coerce (possibly blackmail) members of the UN Security Council in order to win their votes to legalize invading Iraq. Although the story made headlines around the world at the time of the leak and later at the time of her trial, which collapsed after the prosecution withdrew its evidence, it remains largely missing from the official narratives of the build-up to the Iraq war. Not mine or The Observer's finest hour, has to be said. Following the incident, Gun struggled to find work that she Gun was followed, denied legal advice and her Turkish husband faced deportation. It is probably still too early to tell. What resonates to me is the somewhat more, I hope, timeless thing. In a year that the U.S. president is accused of pressuring foreign governments for political gain, the story behind the film Official Secrets seems particularly timely. David Dayen: And you were dealing with a story that was about a leak that didn't stop a war and leading to a trial that didn't happen. Sorry to digress. Naturally, I was discreet. Questioner: The only thing that I've wondered while watching the film, since it's a true story, is how could Ms. Gunn, who was a spy, who was a member of an intelligence agency, be surprised when her husband got deportedor when the government came after her husband, how could she be surprised when all of the different reactions she got came forward? Sixteen years ago, I became headline news after I leaked an internal email from GCHQ, the communications intelligence gathering centre near Cheltenham. Not only was the cable the most sensitive ever to be disclosed on either side of the Atlantic, it was also unique in its timing. But she said she would still be prepared to give evidence to the Chilcot inquiry into the Iraq war. And I thought this is going to end in the worst civil war. "And she then said: 'My way into this is what would I as the unadorned, no-makeup, no-fancy-edges Keira Knightley what would I feel like if this memo landed on my desk?'". Despite the risk of a harsher sentence, I decided to plead not guilty because I felt strongly that my actions had been intended to prevent the unnecessary loss of life in an illegal war. Its had far reaching and very negative impacts in all aspects of our institutions and our public life," Gun says. He really wouldnt; that scene in the movie really happened. David Dayen: How did you think Keira Knightley was an asset in showing that emotional journey throughout the movie? Does anyone have any questions? It was an interesting experience because you couldn't really go bending things the way you thought would be more dramatic, you just have to make the story itself and hope there was enough drama there. David Dayen: No problem. WebWe speak with a British whistleblower whose attempts to expose lies about the Iraq invasion was called "the most important and courageous leak" in history by acclaimed By the way, I know some amazing people in the intelligence services. You might say I am biased. Photograph: Andy Hall for the Observer, en years ago, a young Mandarin specialist at GCHQ, the government's surveillance centre in Cheltenham, did something extraordinary. Me, you, not some big picture. The other kind of fight could be frightening and politically risky. Ed, the real Ed, is absolutely delightful. Id immediately be transported back to GCHQ and that email the anger I felt and the decisions I made. I became a mother, we moved countries and I have come to terms with that year of my life, though it will always define me in some ways. I did feel like, Well, I failed.. Some called her a traitor; others That means that, in theory, the war could still be classified as an illegal war, Gun says. Then, we all started watching the invasion and we werent how we got into the war. And she said, I dont work for the government. That was my first thoughtwhat do you mean you dont work for the government? We need another Katharine Gun. In technical speak, the Americans wanted the whole gamut of information which would give US policy makers an edge in obtaining results favourable to US goals in relation to Iraq. You have no idea. His exact words to describe the intelligence method is, The goal of the intelligence is not the truth, but victory. That is a quote from Shulsky. Thankfully, time passes and the intensity of feelings fades. So thank you for being here, it means a lot. This is not to say that Iran does not have a trick up its sleeve, or that wild-eyed Iranian hawks aren't circling its leaders. David Dayen: I want to go to the questions now. There's an obvious scene of the immigration deportation. [Gun's husband Yasar, a Kurd, was nearly deported back to the Middle East at one point, even though he had nothing to do with the leak.]. In the film, when Gun is sent an email from someone high up in the U.S. government that reveals the U.S. covert plan, she decides to leak it to Bright, who works for the British newspaper The Observer, which then publishes it on their front page. She's based (and born and raised) in Brooklyn, New York. Later, she gave the document to a friend, who passed it onto a contact in the anti-war movement, until it finally landed with journalists Martin Bright and Ed Vulliamy The Observer. Do you go vote? Before 1989, there had been a Public Interest Defence to protect whistleblowers, but that was altered amid the furore surrounding the sinking of the Argentinian Navy cruiser, the General Belgrano, in the course of the Falklands War. Gabrielle Bruney is a writer and editor for Esquire, where she focuses on politics and culture. This is a story about my life and my leak after all, and I still believe in the issues passionately. Throughout her own court case, whatonly a few knew wasthat she was also fighting for the right of her husband, who is from Turkey, to remain in the UK. She said, I worry what's going to happen, they'll go, Ooh, I don't know if I like Keira Knightly in blonde hair, what's she done to her nose, does she have glasses on? Because they don't have a comparison to make, until you see her at the end of the movie. Whether you work for Boeing or Enron or Wallstreet? First, I contacted someone to this day Ive never named them who had the details of a journalist and anti-war activist. 265 ratings46 reviews British secret service officer Katharine Gun's only crime was telling the truth, but she paid a steep price when she exposed a U.S.-U.K. spy operation to secure UN authorization for the Iraq invasion. As the working day came to close, I tried to project a sense of calm I didnt feel, walked out of the gates and put the incriminating email in the post. At first, I heard nothing. As I walked down the red carpet, I had never in my life experienced the flash of so many cameras. The point of all of this is painfully obvious. Gavin Hood: After the spellcheck. An insider with courage. WebAttempts were made by the authorities to deport her husband, who grew disillusioned with Britain. What might, IKeira Knightley, feel if I'm sitting at my desk and this happened to me?" Jeb Bush Just Botched the Iraq Question. Anyway, the Office of Special Plans and Abram Shulsky make an interesting Wikipedia read, it won't take you very long. "You get to the end, and there's this court case. The British are quite British, you know. But get out of that trailer as fast as possible, get onto the set, and work from inside? "But the more I think about what happened, the more angry and frustrated I get about the fact that nobody acted on intelligence. I admitted the leak and my life was turned upside down. It's a fascinating film that really evokes the dangers of speaking out in the post-9/11 age, as well as the press's inability to challenge the official story on Iraq, particularly the U.S. press, which really just blacked out the Gun leak entirely. Official Secrets Trailer #1 (2019) | Movieclips Trailers, Imagine Donald Trump Running an Actual War. Im gratified, too, that the film shows the love and support my husband gave me throughout this ordeal. It's tough, the laws here are even stricter than in the UK. And that I think was the motivation. And then, she said when she got in therenow bear in mind that she still is bound by the Official Secrets Act. That's really the simplest question: When do you speak up? Unfortunately. But, maybe if I didn't know and maybe if I went into that job and discovered oh my God, maybe I really can stop a terrorist attack today. Only now, more than a decade and a half later, is this disturbing sequence of events once again receiving the attention it deserves thanks to Official Secrets, a brilliant new movie starring Keira and former Doctor Who, Matt Smith. Americans find it hard to believe that it could happen, but it happens, it happens fast. They live on a smallholding, renting a house, in rural Turkey. Today, I believe the Act serves as an illiberal, draconian piece of law, little more than a weapon of the state to deter any disclosure, no matter how much in the public interest it might be. Katharine Gun, former intelligence specialist turned whistleblower, discusses the new film "Official Secrets" which details why she leaked a classified memo. Amazing lady, shes still a journalist. The poor woman is based on a real person. The risks Gun took in revealing the UN email's existence were huge. The work shed signed up to do was covered by British law, and would be something to do with whatever that was necessary to keep British lives safe. The memo, however represented the actual twisting of diplomatic arms in order to secure a war which [was] based on lies., But it also represented an opportunity to show the world the tactics American and British officials were willing to employ in their push for an invasion. But Katharine Gun, whos now the subject of a new film, the Gavin Hood-directed Official Secrets, did a lot moreand became one of the most important political whistleblowers that most Americans have never heard of. Exaggerating threats to provoke a war? With the operation blown, the chances of George W Bush and Tony Blair getting the consensus for a direct UN mandate for war were now near zero. The concern among many Americans is that claims of an unprovoked, deadly attack by Iran are exaggerated. "There seems to be this blas attitude the spying goes on, everyone does it and so it's nothing to get all hot under the collar about. Even though she didn't stop the war and some people are like what's the point if she didn't stop the warwell, the point is how do you sleep at night? We even got as far as the Old Bailey. That seems like the central undercurrent that is playing throughout the entire film. Most directly, it bolstered opposition to the US position from Chilean and Mexican diplomats weary of American "dirty tricks". US firms waiting in the wings read to pump 'billions Parents' fury as schools STILL won't tell them if they are closed tomorrow as teacher strikes continue. "Financially it's the toughest," she said. Her story, which reveals what a country will do when it wants war and claims it does not, is told in an updated book and a major motion picture soon to be released--Official Secrets (Keira Knightly is Katharine). Right now my priorities are to ensure I am there for my daughter.". But my point is simply this: The underpinnings of this country matter. If the email did reach the newspapers, I reasoned, there would be no more than a discreet summary. And it was this book which eventually became the script for Official Secrets. Actually, there were two incidents at sea, blamed originally on the North Vietnamese. Every day we worked together for about five to six hours and then I referred back to her many times, subsequently, but I had literally just said, let's start at the beginning and let me hear first-hand from you your story and then I'll tell that story. "I think part of the reason Gavin included it was just to kind of share that thought process.". It is written by Sara and Gregory Bernstein, a California-based husband-and-wife writing partnership who have worked with British director Jonathan Lynn. I actually think the little memo lands on our lap more often than we think, even if it's just who I should vote for. Questioner: It was so heartening to hear you talk about that hero's journey because I feel like we so often take compassion, passion, integrity for granted as a call to action. They published the scoop in March 2003putting Gun directly in the crosshairs of law enforcement, and sparking a legal fight for her freedom. Would you risk your job? Before 1989, there had been a Public Interest Defence to protect whistleblowers, but that was altered amid the furore surrounding the sinking of the Argentinian Navy cruiser, the General Belgrano, in the course of the Falklands War. The memo from Frank Koza, chief of staff at the "regional targets" section of the National Security Agency, GCHQ's sister organisation in the US, remains shocking in its implications for British sovereignty. What do you think resonates? She failed. We must not be flummoxed by exaggerated claims of threats against America and our interests. Taking Vitamin D each day could cut your chances of getting dementia, study claims. And I know whose throat it really sticks in, is [British journalist] Ed Vulliamy, who I adore. Katharine Gun and Martin Bright could be forgiven for fielding Hollywoods overtures with a degree of skepticism. And people do this in every country; they spy, they listen to what are the Chinese going to do when they get to this conference. And she said, Yep, I have no problem being asked to listen in, in instances where I might help prevent a terror attack. What this memo suggested was neither of those things it was a bridge too far for her. We were to target such things as phone calls and emails from their homes as well as their places of work. Iran has been filmed loading missiles aboard some of its vessels. Supported by Liberty, the prominent British civil-rights campaigning organiza-tion, Gun and her lawyer, Ben Emmerson (Ralph Fiennes), decided to cite grounds of necessity in order to contest the charges laid against her. We were in development with a particular studio, and I don't mean to be funny after such a heavy film but sometimes we need a little bit of humor. And it was there that, to our amazement and totally without warning, the CPS dropped the charges before the trial had even started. Whistleblower and former employee of Britain's global surveillance center GCHQ (Government Communications Head Quarters) Katharine Gun smiles as she speaks to the media during a press conference February 25, 2004 in London, England. Not good enough, the trio decided. He was actually gone for three days. Official Secrets is, for the most part, a historical account of these events in 2003, but as with nearly all films based on a true story, some things have been changed to aid the drama of the narrative. Truth about Covid care home testing row: Timeline lays bare what was said, by who and when. But ultimately, heres why I thinkthis might sound like a strange statement. Gavin Hood: Keira is wonderful and is absolutely professional, arrives perfectly prepared, very calm, no fuss. The editorial position should never be that. So thats how the scene happened, but she didnt know where he was for three days, he was at Harmonsworth, before she got him out. ", Left: Dave Benett/Getty. He said: "Very close. Had the film appeared any earlier, however, I dont think Id have been able to watch it, let alone help the makers. ", Speaking to Gun, and seeing her in archival footage at the end of the film, it is clear that Knightley didn't try to emulate the look or sound of the real-life Gun. Interestingly I think we faced a challenge, which some of you may or may not agree with. Perhaps it was no wonder that Tony Blairs government decided to abandon the case without offering any evidence. Because I'm not ambitious it's not paramount for me to find myself in a high-paid job. Most whistleblowers leak after the event to expose perceived wrongdoing. This was her first or second week at the paper. We typically, in the movie business, ever since Joseph Campbell wrote The Hero of A Thousand Facesand Im not meaning to be sarcastic because thats a great piece of work, but it spoiled the idea that every development executive is reading these books because the hero we meet and then something upsets their world and the antagonist that must equal the hero, and eventually we go through these loops and the hero triumphs in the end. Does your loyalty lie to your own conscious, does your loyalty lie to your marriage, does your loyalty lie to your government, does your loyalty lie to your country? So right there, you are pulling out the highlights," said Hood of the key issue with making Official Secrets. To this day, however, there has been barely a mention of the year I spent living under a cloud. I was glad to get back to what I hoped would be normality, but the effect on me had been traumatising. Though celebrated Pentagon Papers whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg would later call Guns actions the most important and courageous leak in history due to her efforts to save lives through preventing a war, she obviously didnt succeed in stopping the invasion. The difficulties of translating Gun's story also made writing the climax of the film tricky. I don't know that consciously it did, it's just that I didn't know the story and so, for me, it was I asked Katharine, I flew to London, I met her for five days. And I thought: this is good. Only later did I appreciate the extent to which the journalists involved Martin Bright, Peter Beaumont and Ed Vulliamy had to go in order to prove that the email was legitimate. So I said to her at one point, and its in the movie because her interrogator said it too and you would ask her the same question, which is Katharine I hear all this, but it was a little muddy, you worked as a spy, you hacked peoples phones and computers, you do dirty tricks. Then, the world is safer until the sequel when it all happens again. Eventually, it was widely held that at least one of the reports of the attacks, and perhaps even both, were false. And isnt it also time to re-examine the Official Secrets Act? But this specificinstance is the ugly truth of what goes on.". Director Gavin Hood Writers Sara Bernstein Gregory Bernstein Gavin Hood Stars Keira Knightley Matt Smith Matthew Goode Maybe thats rewarding. Then the most almighty cacophony erupted, a roar so loud we could barely hear to speak. Donald Trump also is saying he doesn't want war, which is probably true. (Photo by Scott Barbour/Getty Images). And it's not an easy question, it sounds easy, but I don't think it is. The truth is that I didnt know who Katharine Gun was until my producer Ged Doherty called me up one day, we made Eye In The Sky together, and said, Have you ever heard of Katharine Gun? Thats one of those moments where you think: Sounds like I ought to have, but I hadnt. She said, You mean I dont have to wear a corset? To your point, in some way, she said to me, As a woman, its kind of ironic as an actress that I so often, even though Im in the modern world, that I have to find heroic women in period dramas wearing corsets. Theres something weird about that. From nightmares to candy cravings, the seemingly innocuous habits in Man is banned from touching every parking meter in Liverpool for two years after being convicted of theft, Katharine Gun, Gchq Whistleblower For The Mail On Sunday, Do not sell or share my personal information. By design. The truth is when she speaks to me, and she says, Gavin, we also go to lunch like everybody else in any other office. The comments below have been moderated in advance. We started working on this three years ago and even then it felt relevant in the sense that the challenges we talked about earlier: Where does my loyalty lie? Gavin Hood: I asked her the same questions, and on about my second day interviewing her, I said to her, because I wasnt sure if I should make the movie; I mean, I needed to know whose story I was telling and if she was batshit crazy. [Ahmed is depicted in the film as strongly pro-war, resistant to running stories that conflict with his opinion.]. Moment fitness influencer asks man to move off park bench 'because he's 'ruining her livestream' - but Mortgage demand plummets to a 28-year low as average interest rates hit 6.71% - just as spring home buying Britain braces for brutal -9C Arctic snap: Met Office warns more snow and ice could lash the country next Is YOUR wood burner at risk? Enter Katharine Gun. His philosophy comes from a military intelligence model, which actually, by the time you go to war, now it's about winning. So important was this email, I knew it might even derail the case that Tony Blair was making for joining the Americans in an invasion. One is kind of what I thought it was, which is the CIA is the Central Intelligence Agency, walled off from politicians and the executive in a perfect world, where all the intelligence comes in, they analyze it and they then present their best intelligence estimates; this is pre-war, youre not at war, to the executive branch. For example, a scene where Gun tries to get her husband out of an immigration detention center actually played out over three days during which she did not know where he was. Not the truth, but the war. Guided by her conscience, Katharine Gun defied her government and leaked the memo to the press, setting off a chain of events that jeopardized her freedom, her safety, but also opened the door to putting the entire Iraq invasion on trial. I could put a lens on, and now my job is, this actress is doing great work, lets not get tricky, lets just get the audience into her eyes so that you could see those cogs moving. Theyre talking about diplomatic negotiations, and having all the cards on the table, but behind that what theyre doing is trying to bribe UN diplomatic members to vote for a war which has no legal justifications, Gun says. She hoped that if people know about the lengths to which theyve gone to legitimize an invasion of Iraq, then it would blow apart, and people will suddenly think, No, this isnt right, and the whole house of cards would come tumbling down.. She was charged WebThe Katharine Gun Case. She said to me, Gavin, I had no problem doing the work that involved a lot of listening in, in order to give information about trade negotiations, to give our country the advantage of trade negotiations when they go. Warning: The following contains spoilers for Official Secrets. Gavin Hood: Thats such an interesting statement, I mean, I just took it at face value that papers take an editorial position, but youre right. They're more polite to their suspects. When do the clocks change in 2023? She didnt know where he was for three days and she took the train down from Charlton to London to see the MP, Nigel Jones, who said exactly what he says in the movie. 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